Black & Blue: How Will It Do On The Charts?

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Submitted by meg from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 19:05:36 2000

hey everyone,

I am getting frustrated that every time that i come to this website, another *NSYNC person is getting yelled at or is making a comment that isn't needed. This is a Backstreet Boys site, not an *NSYNC site. If they want to diss Backstreet Boys they can use their own site. Every group has their own characteristics (even though I feel Backstreet Boys are better. But that is just my own opinion) People have their own opinions but they don't have to voice them on a site about people that they don't like. Anyway, i just wanted to get this off my mind.

Submitted by Lil'Bec from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 19:05:24 2000

Okay.. If what I read about N Sync(or their label) is cheating.. all I have to say is that it proves just how damn superficial these people are. The story DOES makes sense, because I read at a retail seller(I forget which one) that B&B already sold 3 million copies and that's why they were having a sale. Then after that, all the stories were different, went from 3 million, to 2 million, and then to 1.6 million. What the HELL is up with that? Did they think we were totally stupid to actaully NOT notice it? It makes me sick that some people are so money-hungry that they would lie, cheat and decieve. That in itself makes me sick, because that's what the world is coming to, and it's sad. I wish I could do something about it.. really.. because although records don't matter.. it is still NOT fair at ALL what Jive did just for some more money. I have gained new respect for them for not saying anything and be like 'Whatever.. doesn't matter' because that in itself says a lot about them. *Shakes her head* What is the world coming to? Seriously... it's scary. I hope BSB the best.. and I cheer them on, cuz someday, it'll come down to who can last, and I know BSB can if they keep on their track. That's all I have to say at the moment. LOL. Long enough? hehehe... See ya'll lattah!

Submitted by open your eyes from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 18:50:45 2000

as I said before, backstreet has no talent, they cant sing, and nsync is way better than them. Bsb dont care about their fans, they just want their money. you are saying that they sold 3,6 copies? this is BULL, they wish heheheh....anyways, I said that Nsync has more energy, and that is true, you cant tell it by wacthin one of their videos, I know this a bsb site, but i gotta open your eyes.... but its all good....you guys still can change your taste, become a nsync fan and you gonna be happy, they are so great, their songs are off tha hook, they are #1, they have respect from a lot of people, jenifer lopez, fred from limp, etc , but Eminem, its because eminem dont dig pop music....

guys, bsb suck, change ok, viva nsync tha# 1....and that bull about the record, they didnt break nsync records, too bad, maybe next time................bye bye bye backsideboys........and fans :)

I AM WHATEVER YOU SAY I AM

suckers

Submitted by person from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 18:19:37 2000

JIVE RECORD SUX

Submitted by Corine from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 16:51:08 2000

Would it hurt for the BSB fans to be more positive? All I ever read is complaining here complaining there. Wait a second! Did we ever think for a minute that the Backstreet Boys are human beings? You saw Diary. You saw how they were freaked out when they were trapped in the bus, and the look on their faces. You saw them yawn, you saw them cough, sneeze, swear, drink*gasp*alcohol, argue(although not violently). They are human beings, and you all are trying to make them out as gods or something. See! That is the trouble with teenyboppers and the whole poster obsession. Why can't you just listen to their music? As soon as the postes come around you start the whole wroshiping routine, and its very sad. I mean, I know AJ said what he said in Teen People. And when I read it, I laughed. The guy was just proving his confidence. These were not the reflections of all the Backstreet Boys, and you know what, I believe the 3.6 million thing is true. What was up with the receipts from Millennium? They always said 3 NSA albums on them. And how about the fact that there was a know-nothing for all the days after Black and Blue's release? But I guess we can only keep this to ourselves, and know the truth secretly. But back to AJ, didn't he appologize for what he said. Give the guy a break. He's 22 years old, he has a lot of stress, he just broke up with the love of his life, as he called Amanda. Why can't you all be more understanding and sympathetic? Why is it that you have to treat the ones you claim to love like they can't make mistakes. That's all I have to say.

Bottom line, also, who cares about a record? The Boys have talent. The Beatles never had the record NSYNC has, and please NSYNC fans GO SOMEWHERE if you want to compare NSYNC to the Beatles. That is like comparing mud to sand, sardines to caviar...there is NO comparison, so don't think y0ou are the 5hit, NSYNC, because you have some record that your fans cheated to get.

Submitted by Nikki from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 15:55:46 2000

I was reading that whole scandal thing about BSB really selling 3.6 million the first week well it made me sick!!

BSB breaks nsyncs reocrd then JIVE LOWERS THE SALES! what the f*ck? BSB were on the label first, but they let nsync(a bunch of talentless goldigger) keep their record???????????

C'mon!! I do have MUCH more rescept for the BSB now it takes alot guts not to say anything about that. But wait NSYNC KNOWS ABOUT THIS??????? that just makes me sicker. If nsync were really in it for the music, they would have told the truth and let BSB get their record back!!

Just One Question:

How come BSB are still on JIVE??????

Submitted by bsbphan from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 04:11:26 2000

**SCANDAL???? Judge for yourself. Found this in the g/b of this site.***

From blackbsbfans list.

http://www.egroups.com/group/blackbsbfans

**The Boys sold 3.6 copies of Black and Blue here in

the U.S. it's first week.**

But don't hold your breath waiting for Soundscan or

Jive to announce it because it isn't going to happen.

Here is how I came about this information. I was

waiting in line for concert tix this morning when I

struck up a conversation with another woman who was

getting tix for another venue. But she also thinks the

Boys are pretty good, even though she admitted she

wasn't a "die-hard fan". She actually likes 'NSync

better, not because of the vocals (she said the BSB

are far superior), but because she just likes the

up-tempos more and likes the dancing emphasis in the

'NSync shows. This lady has a very wide taste in

music, believe me! From Nine Inch Nails to Limp to 98

Degrees.

We started talking about Black and Blue and she said

she really liked it. She had also heard of the MFC,

and she said she would look us up on the Internet

because she liked the idea about all the charity work

that we do. :)

Anyways, we got to talking about first week sales, and

she told me that she grew up in the Orlando area, and

she has a good friend who is directly affiliated with

Jive. Her friend's family owns Kingworld productions,

and she mentioned several names that I know for a fact

are associated with the Boys and Jive. (No, she has

never met them, nor does she claim to know them

personally).

**Anybody remember that little post from the BOOST

club that ended up on the MFC message board and other

boards that stated the Boys had sold 3.6 million so

far? And then it suddenly "disappeared"

justlikethat?**

Well, this was the EXACT number this lady quoted to

me!

I asked her how she came up with this information, and

she said it all started back with the sale of NSA when

she went to buy a copy for her daughter the first week

it came out, and she noticed a #2 by the "quantity"

line. But yet she only paid for one. She said she

asked the store manager about it, and he said that was

how Jive had instructed all of them to be keyed in.

(??)

She wasn't happy with that answer, so she called her

friend in Florida because she knew she was associated

with Jive, but she claimed ignorance about the whole

thing. But then after Black and Blue came out, her

friend gave her the whole scoop and told her that NSA

did NOT sell 2.4 million that first week. It only sold

1.2 million, just barely beating out the Boys' record.

The inflated figures came from carefully-placed marks

on the bar codes that automatically registerd a single

purchase of NSA as being 2 copies, although most

consumers never saw the discrepancy or were aware of

the marks.

I was still a little skeptical here, so I asked her

why Jive would intentionally do this, and she quoted

the "boy band" feud thing... trying to keep the fires

of competition going between the fans.

So why would Jive deliberately LOWER the numbers for

Black and Blue if it really sold 3.6 million copies?

She said her friend told her that this will actually

BOOST sales for both albums, and that they (Jive) are

centering a lot of attention on NSync right now and

trying to keep them "on top" because they figure they

can get one more album out of them before they lose

their very young teen and pre-teen fanbase. And then

it will be all over. NO multi-album deals have been

offered to NSync, and we all know that the Boys have a

5-album deal, which will probably take them at least

6-8 years or so to fill, depending on whether or not

double-album or single-album releases are planned for

the future.

**In other words, Jive knows that the Boys are here to

stay, and they're milking the NSync cash cow for

everything they can right now!**

If the Boys leave Jive, which they have hinted at

recently in the press, Jive will plummet rapidly. They

will have Britney and NSync, both of which have a very

"iffy" chance at longevity.

So do the Boys know about this? That I can't tell you,

but her friend told her that she thought they did, and

that they're okay with it because they're trying to

get away from the "boy band" competition between them

and NSync. Beating their record would have just fueled

the fire even more. They're distancing themselves from

this whole mess and trying to re-invent themselves

both musically and personally.

Do I believe this person? Well, I can't imagine why

she would make something like this up. And she

admitted to liking NSync more. And if you look at some

of the "rumors" that were flying around when NSA first

came out about messed-up receipts and such, it makes

sense. And did anyone notice how tight-lipped sources

were with giving the public any info about Black and

Blue's sales at first? The media was broadcasting

NSA's sales tallies almost on a daily basis earlier

this year! And nowhere have I seen WalMart's actual

first-week sales posted.

Very interesting to think about. But I have to say

this... if this is true, I have just gained a huge

amount of respect for the Boys. To know what is going

on and NOT say anything says volumes to me. And on the

opposite hand, for Nsync to be equally knowledgeable

about all of this literally makes me ill.

Submitted by Crazy L. from usa
Date: Mon Dec 4 00:11:55 2000

hey EVERYONE if you wanna know THE TRUTH run to the guestbook on this site don't walk run!!!! and read the big message from anonymous!!!! alright go go go i mean run run run!!!!

Submitted by Stephanie from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 22:44:45 2000

i seriously need to get some things off my chest.

first off, to all the n' sync fans/anti bsb ppl who come in here to mouth off the bsb and their fans, get the f$ck off cuz we don't need trash like you telling us what's in your small-a$$ brains, ok? this is a bsb fan site, let's keep it a bsb fan site. and if you continue to diss them, like lil' bec said, we WILL defend our boys.

and to the critics who wrote all those reviews, KISS MY FAT A$$. you all have absolutely no taste in music (or at least can't tell the difference from good music to bad music). in fact, just when the bsb get out of their boy band label, they write all this bull about a really great album. dude, they can shove their pencils up their hairy a$$ and get a reality check.

who cares if bsb didn't break the record??? aj said they were glad they didn't cuz then how else are they gonna be able to top that with the next album? ok, so n' sync holds the most records sold in a week. but it's in the USA. bsb had the most records sold in a week WORLDWIDE. let's see n' sync beat that record. and you know what? they can't, cuz they're only popular in the US. so just because they didn't break the record in the US doesn't mean we can't like them anymore.

to "open your eyes", if they don't give a flying f$ck about us, then why do they even bother going through all the trouble to see their fans all around the world? and it's not because they're promoting their new album. you don't see n' sync or 98 degrees or britney spears doing that do you? and did n' sync ever wrote a song dedicated to their fans? not that i've heard of. and you say n' sync has more energy? all they ever do is dance, dance, dance. all that dancing is an excuse to cover up their lack of singing talents in their concerts. you say the bsb suck? hello! justin acts black, lance looks like a fish or a girl, joey is WAAAYY fatter than nick, chris is hell lot older than kevin, and JC looks and talks as if he's on crack.

and who the hell said bsb copied n' sync's chair routine? what is n' sync's "chair routine"? i've never seen it. i'm pretty sure the chair routine in the video "as long as you love me" came WAAAYYY before n' sync even existed.

some people might be saying right now that this girl has problems, or i totally agree with her. whatever. i don't care, i'm simply getting load of sh!t off my chest.

Submitted by Nicole from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 20:14:33 2000

Okay, I know we are past all of the reviews, but what's up with those things?? I told myself that I wouldn't read them, yet I did, and this is crazy!! What's this about you don't have to have any talent to make music history, and all those things about they'll just call the album bad, and let the fans here all this music until we realize something and start listening to "real" music like Kid rock and stuff. I DON'T GET AND IT"S DRIVING ME ISANE!! And all of the NSYNC fans who are getting a laugh out of these bad reviews, you can stop, because they aren't saying anything nice about NSYNC either. Basically, these people are saying pop music will end,(especially in the new ones) whether it's NSYNC, BSB, Britney, ANYONE. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by Michelle from canada
Date: Sun Dec 3 18:05:12 2000

I came here to prove a point. Well, I hope to prove a point. BSB and N'Sync have the same record labels and the same people who write their songs. So... if you diss Backstreet Boys' songs, then you diss N'Sync's songs, vice versa. Anyway, it's true that BSB has NEVER said anything back to N'Sync. BSB focus on their stuff and they hate spreading rumours. Let me just say this, if BSB 'copied' N'Sync's 'chair routine', then why haven't I seen N'Sync's chair routine? If they DO have a chair routing, BSB couldn't have copied it because the chair routing was made in 1997 and N'Sync didn't even exist yet!

And this 'nsync fan' girl said that she listened to BSB's new album and it's only love songs!! Umm.... no. Here's a list:

Not love songs: The Call, Get Another Boyfriend, You're My Shining Star, Answer to our Life, Everyone, Time, Not For Me

Love songs: Shape of My Heart, I Promise You (With Eerything I Am), More Than That, Yes I will, It's True and How Did I Fall In Love With You

SIX love songs and SEVEN up-tempos. that really proves nsync fans are stupid and can't do the math! Also, I listened to 'No Strings Attached'... let me just say that I only liked TWO songs. This I Promise You and It's Gonna Be Me. The others are stupid (Space Cowboy??? and Digital Get Down???)

And at least their (BSB)'s album name actually make sense. Black and Blue (the album is black and blue). While N'Sync's No Strings Attatched, have them on the cover with strings attached to them. Uhh... yeahhh....

And N'Sync moved to Jive Records WAY AFTER Backstreet Boys were there. N'Sync used to be signed to another record label, but then they realized that their songs SUCKED and the Backstreet Boys were beating their asses, they moved.

And what's this about 'A.J. being too over-confident?' You know what Chris Kirkpatrick said about the new release of Black and Blue? And I'm not lying, I heard with my own two ears on the radio. 'Yeah, I think the Backstreet Boys WILL beat our first week sales record because it's the holidays and people shop more this times of year'. That should shut 'nsync fan' up.

I have WAY more things to say, but I don't have that much time.

Peace,

Michelle

Submitted by Tanisha from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 16:46:17 2000

I'm really sick of those *NSYNC fans dissing BSB. I'm a fan of both groups and don't understand how they can say anything bad about BSB. BSB are talented singers and for the people who think that they can't sing, you need to get your ears checked!I just finished watching E! News and they had these *NSYNC fans saying that they didn't like BSB because they were greasy(I don't know what they meant by that). Also they said that they didn't like them because they were old and married.

Excuse BSB for lasting so long and being able to keep their fans. Also excuse them for finding true love, it's not like everyone in *NSYNC is single. They're going to land up getting married one day and they're going to lose a lot of their fans since most of their fans are like 12,(Believe me I know I've been to a couple of their shows). I mean if you don't like BSB's music,fine that's your opinion but don't say rude things about them because they've been around for 8 years and have proved the critics wrong. Also *NSYNC fans shouldn't be putting down BSB because they didn't break *NSYNC's record. I don't see *NSYNC breaking any world records!

Besides that I think both groups can sing their butts off and both put on awesome shows.I think that the Backstreet and *NSYNC fans need to stop dissing each other because it's very childish and it gives critics more the reason to make fun of both groups.

Anyway Black and Blue is the bomb!!

KTBSPA!!

Submitted by christina from canada
Date: Sun Dec 3 15:48:16 2000

Carly~ I know, that's what i was talking about. Nsync said they copied the chair thing but BSB had it on their tour. Just hearing them talk makes me mad because I know they are trying to screw over BSB. I like that BSB know their careers could end any day (It'll never happen though with the fans they have" unlike "The other group" who thinks they are better and no one can top them. WRONG!!!!!

Submitted by Carly from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 13:10:56 2000

Christina ~ I totally argee with everything you said. But NSYNC are the biggest liars in the world. The BSB chair routine waz made in early 1997 BEFORE nsync's first album was even finished!!! How could BSB copy??? And why would they wanna copy NSYNC???? Nsync is a much of bulls**t

BSB knows that there careers could end tomorrow(doubt it will though) and they know they could get better, and they wanna get better. but nsync on the other hand havent even reached the top and there "sucucess" is going to there heads(yep they sure have alot a success a 6 year old thinks there cute)!!! THey need a reality check

Submitted by Nicole from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 11:42:09 2000

OHHHHHHH...Crazy L, don't feel bad!! Is it about BSB or just basically things? If anything, listen to THE ANSWER TO OUR LIFE. That song always makes me want to skip around. I hope you feel better. Lil bec needs to come back, huh?? I swear she does!

Submitted by Open your eyes from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 11:27:32 2000

OK dont get mad at me aight..Im gonna keep it real with yall

The Backsideboys are no good for yall, they dont care about the fans(YOU) they care about the money of course, they suck, they cant sing, they dont have any natural talent, and they are ugly, very ugly, JJ is a freak, nick Timberlake is fat, howie spears is so gay, brian aguielera looks like a wolf, and Kevin gotta cut his greasy hair...

You think they care about you but they dont, its the same with nsync, i bet they are the same thing... dont hate me ok....

stop listing to backsideboys, they cant sing, its all crap... kevin needs some crazy help, the man has awfull voice, I think Nsync is better than bsb, Im Not a nsync fan but they are kickin bsb asses, sorry fans, Those groups of pop music suck, but if I had to choose one, it would be nsync, they got more energy than bsb....sorry.....byeee bsb fans....they both suck, but bsb suck more

thats all......dont hate me

Submitted by Thili from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 04:43:18 2000

All I have to say that BSB fans should not worry about NSYNC fans talkin trash about BSB. They just a bunch of kids who needs to get some spankin. NSYNC should not be mention at all because they don't even compare to BSB, the biggest and most popular group in the world since the Beatles. Of course NSYNC had copy everthing that BSB do. The lastest is probably their facial hair. All of NSYNC members have facial hair, including JC and Justin. They will continue BSB til their career is over, like in 2 months. It seems like people are down because BSB didn't break the US charts week record. C'mon! They are still the most popular and biggest group in the US and I'll guaranteed that. Just because they didn't break the record doesn't mean they are not the best group. Many of thier fans do not have the time to buy thier albums because they are in college and finals are comin up. I'm a college student and i know. BSB fans had been growing up, unlike 5 years old NSYNC fans who have the time to buy the group's album. Well BSB will stay at Number 1 on the all the worlds charts for a long tiime, because they hold the world record week sale for the world.

Submitted by crazy L. from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 03:11:13 2000

I FEEL BAD!!!DON'T KNOW WHY!!!!!

Submitted by tati from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 00:46:53 2000

To Thetruth: Not all of the BSB fans are immature and not all of the NSYNC fans are immature. BUT, for SOME of them, I agree with you. KTBSPA people!!

Submitted by question from usa
Date: Sun Dec 3 00:42:29 2000

Okay, I have a question. Where could've BSB stole NSYNC's move from? I am a fan of both groups and I really don't remember NSYNC doing any chair routines, except for FOR THE GIRL WHO HAS EVERYTHING concert version.BUT, AS LONG AS YOU LOVE ME's routine was figured out WAY before For the girl/ BSB couldn't have possibly copied NSYNC's moves. Besides, though both routines have chairs, they are totally different.

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