The Lost Boys: How a Pop Sensation Came Undone

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Submitted by maral from markham ontario Canada
Date: Wed Aug 21 09:33:46 2002

thanx sharon, all the backstreet support we can get rox! KTBSPA

Submitted by Maral from Markham Ontario Canada
Date: Wed Aug 21 09:32:25 2002

Ok this one Is for Jess, If you don't liek BSB then thats fine, everyone has there own opinion, but don't come onto a BSB site and say things like that, have some respect girl. The music industy has nothing to do with being funny, It only has to do with Music! Not being funny or hot or nice, or kind, It has ntohing to do with that, it has to do with HARD WORK, which N'sync wouldn't know about cuz success was handed out on a plate to them, cuz of BSB. Thats why Its called the MUSIC industry! It only has to do with the music. So don't come onto this site saying that KEVIN is a prike! If you read the article, kevin is the one who Is always saying nive things about N'sync, and about how they deserve there success. He has respect unliek any of you ungrateful savages!

Submitted by Sharon from Netherlands
Date: Wed Aug 21 09:29:28 2002

I agree with Maral, you go girl!!

Submitted by jess from USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 09:10:34 2002

mia is totally right. n'sync is a very talented group, and they deserve as much respect as the bsb. the boys don't get the love and respect b/c they take themselves too fucking seriously. if you look at an n'sync interview, and then you look at a bsb interview, the same questions asked, i guarentee you that the n'sync will be the guys laughing and having a good time, and then bsb will just be sitting there looking at the floor, while that arrogant prick kevin does all the talking. there is a reason for sucess in this business...it is called CHARISMA. n'sync has it, bsb doesn't. the results are clear.

:) jess

http://groups/yahoo.com/group/nick_the_man

Submitted by Maral from Markham Ontario Canada
Date: Wed Aug 21 09:04:03 2002

Ok, first to start off, i would just like to say to this chick Mia, who has poste a letter to shut the hell up! how dare u come to a BSB site and put them down! are u stupid? Hunny i have one thing to say to u, get UR info right! The only reason ur stupid N'sync is even in this industy is becouse of BSB, you should be kissing the ground they walk on! Oh Ya, and by the way, BSB WRITES, SINGS (UNLIKE N'SYNC) AND EVEN PRODUCES MOST OF THERE ALBUMS AND SONGS.HOW DARE YOU COME ONTO THIS SITE AND SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT EVEN TRUE. BSB CAME OUT FIRST AND OPENED UP THE INDUSTY, THATS THE ONLY REASON N'SYNC IS OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO DON'T SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE.

And as for the article I THOUGHT IT WAS STUPID, IM WRITTING A letter right now to the new york times, cuz they don't even have half the info right in it. Im upset and even madder about the stupidness of some ppl. I think journalist's should have the write info before they say things that are not true.
Maral*** Canada

Submitted by jess from cleveland ohio USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 09:02:54 2002

oh, come on you guys. you know that the backstreet boys have been fading away since "more than that". a breakup is imminent at this point. all we can do now is hope that nick is sucessful in his solo venture.

:) jess

htp://groups.yahoo.com/group/nick_the_man

Submitted by Sharon from Netherlands
Date: Wed Aug 21 08:43:02 2002

Wow... That was long... That was... I don't know, meaningfull. The BSB lost their younger audience? I'm 19, I have a lot of friends who are BSB fans who are 19 or younger... are we old? Don't think so.
Why do they always keep comparing with Nsync, that really bothers me. Nsync has nothing to do with the BSB, the BSB were here before them, and they WILL outlive them for sure.
So Nick makes a solo cd... so? Does that mean he has to leave the group? No. I've been a fan since I was 12 years old, and I still am a big fan. I've been following whatever they did for over 7 years now, and I remember Nick saying he might want to make a solo cd, I also remember Brian saying that. Okay maybe noboday believed it back then, but here's the proove, Nick's album Now Or Never. So? He's probably gonna do a tour yeah, so? SOOOO??? That doesn't mean he's gonna leave the BSB!! AHHH I can't stand it when people talk like that, geez whoever this article wrote, he probably doesn't even know them!! So what makes him think he has the right to write stuff like this anyway? If he doesn't like them.. good for him, everyone his own opinion.. But don't write it down like this as if you're right and nothing else is possible UGH!!
Nick makes a solo cd, goes on a tour, after a few months, the hype about his cd is over and he can go back to the BSB. I'm not complaining about his cd, I've always liked Nick most, I love his voice, so I can't wait to get his cd, but that doesn't mean I don't want him to stay in the group. The BSB aren't the BSB anymore when one of the members leaves. Doesn't matter which member, BSB are Nick, Brian, Kevin, Howie and AJ, nothing more, nothing less.
They had their problems yeah, heart surgery, rehab... DUH They're normal human beings like everyone! They just happen to be great performers! Some of them married.. DUH most people want to get married! That's what life's about! LOVE! Why would anyone blame them for that?
They can take time off! They're not machines, so no one can expect them to work 24/7 365 days a year. That's impossible. They need their time off! They need their rest, they're only human beings!
Okay, I live in the Netherlands, I haven't seen them in concert in over 3 years, sometimes I get really pissed about it, but I also know it's not their fault. They can't be at more than one location at the same time, and they need to spend time with their families, time with their wifes/girlfriends, time doing whatever they like without people trying to boss them around.
...
So, let Nick make his solo cd, let him go on a tour, they will be back together, remember how they always said they're gonna stay here forever?
Yeah they lost some fans, but they probably weren't real fans. The real fans will be waiting for them. The real fans will support Nick like they supported Brian when he had his surgery, like they supported AJ when he did his tour and when he went into rehab. The real fans will support all of them when they are having whatever kinda problems. The real fans will wait.
Keep The Backstreet Pride Alive

Submitted by Mia from USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 08:29:20 2002

LISTEN! Some of you need to get facts straight before you post! Nobody said they shouldn't get married. We said they shouldn't have taken two years for a honeymoon. Whether your in the music business or not-that can kill a career. Nick made an album in this period (which was NOT rushed), that every BSB was aware of. Only when they decided they had a big enough break did they suddenly care that Nick had a solo record. They expected him to shelve it? Well you can't do that. A cd can cost more than a million doller just to make-not including promotion. So who's really the selfish and lazy people. AS for NSYNC-they not only write almost all of thier songs-they produce them also (BSB does not). Nsync also writes music-not just lyrics-like BSB. For all the hating a lot of us have done (myself included) Nsync has (like their music or not) surpassed BSB in not just fans but the way they manage to keep control of their careers, frienships and music. BSB have had even more of an oppurtunity with their talent but they indeed act like boys and get that much respect. They need to either learn to get along or quit.

Submitted by Ryan from Australia
Date: Wed Aug 21 07:19:17 2002

The article, and more importantly this forum has made me realise 1 thing - THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT OF AUSTRALIAN FANS - Go the Aussies!!!

Submitted by Ryan from Australia
Date: Wed Aug 21 07:16:47 2002

As long as we're here, who cares?....

Submitted by Janice from Melb VIC Australia
Date: Wed Aug 21 07:09:36 2002

Reading the article was very very disturbing for me. it makes me really hurt deep inside and i'm sure many of the fans would've too.

I felt that the article was quite negative towards the BSB and that shouldn't be right. There whole career written out like that has been such a long journey, it makes me luv them soooooo soooooo much more.

and if it wasn't for the BSB, nsync wouldn't even exist!!! ... they can't sing like shit! n for justin...he can go to hell!!

but the BSB are "the one" and will last forever, especially in my heart.

Submitted by Chrissie from Germany
Date: Wed Aug 21 04:59:38 2002

I'm a BsB fan since 95 and I will never forget what they did for me. Over here in Germany nobody really cares bout the boys anymore and I dont care bout that.
They don't need to be the best band of the world for everyone.For me they will always be the best band.Deep inside my heart I thank them for everything they have done.
Maybe they'll have a come back maybe they'll make it big again but the only thing that matters to me is the music. Songs like How did I fall in love with you just make me feel better.

I'll stay backstreet for life.

Submitted by Lil from SF CA USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 03:33:16 2002

All I have to say is this is a great publicity stunt that someone made because it defintly has everyone talking. Nick going solo...isn't detrimental at all...because who's gonna take him seriously? I'm not. I mean AJ can go on a solo tour and yet Nick makes a rushed pop/rock album and the now the BSB are officially doomed? Please, Nick as much as I love him...he's not the brightest thing in the world and I'm sure this album will do nothing but to give some publicity for a Justin vs nick feud. As a fan, I know they'll be back and better than ever. To prove my point, a station where I live showed an N'sync concert a few nights ago and then the BSB one was tonight. I'm sorry but yah N'sync can dance...but can they dance and sing? NOOOOO They completely lip-synched Bye, bye, bye. ANd the BSB didn't lip synch anything INCLUDING LARGER THAN LIFE which we all know is a hard dance routine. Ahh that's enough of this. At least the BSB name is out there and good luck to Nick and his subpar solo effort.

Submitted by Lindsey from Boston MA USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 03:06:06 2002

The responses to this article are really overwhelming... I really don't have it in me to read each and every one of them right now, but I think I just might have to make it a point to do so, because I am really interested in what the take of my peers, the fans, is on all of this. The Backstreet Boys have been losing momentum for a while now, and being a devout fan, going to all my local shows, travelling as much as I can to see them on tour and during other public appearances, you meet people (some close to the band, some not), and you pick up on things.

The first thing I want to say is that IN MY OPINION, AJ McLean's alcohal problem has very little to do with the detriment of the band. AJ helping himself set a positive example for a lot of young people struggling with addiction, and I think he deserves a lot more credit from the press than he gets when it comes to that particular situation. So he is in a pop band. Yes a lot of their fans are adolescent females. But I'll tell you this, when I became a fan of the BSB in 1997, it was mainly because of their talent, but when I thought of Nick Carter, I wasn't thinking that he was this young innocent that I had this massive crush on and fantasized about. I was thinking that he was hot and I wanted to get in his pants. And I know that I was not the only 15 or 16 year old who was thinking this, because even the most reserved of my friends at the time was standing on her chair screaming for Howie D. to "take it off!" So it came to no shock to me, at 19 years old, that AJ had a drinking problem. Hell, any one of us might have under that kind of stress in that situation. And to go even further into it, Brian and Kevin's marriages may have been devistating to some fans, but these MILLIONS of girls have to know somewhere deep down that their chances of being with these guys are slim to none, and I know, as a true fan, I was genuinely happy that in their hectic lives, they found themselves a little slice of peace and happiness with someone.

To get back to my original point, their personal lives have LITTLE to do with their situation as a band right now, or their popularity. It is about how the band was marketed to the general public. Now this I fault back onto the Boys themselves. This article states that they unknowingly got themselves into some bad business deals, but it never said they didn't have a hand or a say in how they were collectively represented in the public eye. *NSYNC is obviously having tremendous success right now as a group, and surpassed BSB a few years ago, not because they're better musicians, but because they were very business minded and marketed themselves as a group wisely. Backstreet Boys wanted so badly to distinguish themselves as a vocal group, not a boy band that they didn't experiment as much as they should've with their sound and alienated a lot of fans. Now I've met Justin Timberlake, and he is one huge prick, but when you see him on TV, or out publicly with the band, they are laughing, joking, and really having a good time with all of this. They are able to poke fun at themselves, and that is what makes them endearing to all of these people. Now when Chris Rock was poking fun at AJ at last years VMA's, Brian stormed on the stage and took the champagne bottle from him during an awards show broadcast... what the hell is that?? Sure you're going to be a little defensive over your friend, but it's AJ's criticism to deal with, and he showed a room full of music industry heavyweights (it was edited from the broadcast) that he was uptight as all hell. Why couldn't he have just let that blow over, and possibly comment on it after the broadcast??? The public persona of BSB has become very serious, brooding, and generally dark, and that just doesn't fit with the bubblegum pop their pushing in their albums. That, I feel, is their most serious fault in this whole thing... they were too busy resenting *NSYNC and worrying about what that group's next move would be instead of worrying about their own careers.

I have to talk about the comments made about Nick going solo, because I feel the article makes a great point about this being a detriment to the band, but I feel they didn't explain why thoroughly. Right now Nick Carter is in the process of putting out his first solo album. And so is Justin Timberlake. But do you hear anyone (besides Lou Pearlman in this article) agonizing over what a bad move Justin is making and how much this is going to hurt *NSYNC? Nope. But Nick really is hurting the guys by pushing his solo stuff right now... I feel his main reason for doing it is selfish; he's just a confused 22 year old, and maybe he feels this is his time to just do his thing and the other group members have to accept it. But with Justin working on solo plans (which he has been publicly contemplating for years, Nick has just come a little out of the blue with it), Joey starring in "Rent," and Lance getting orbited into outer space and hopefully getting lost out there, this is prime time for the Boys to move back in with something fresh, to really reclaim their title as the pioneers of this game, and Nick is completely disregarding that right now. And I *do* feel that part of it is to get his solo stuff out there before Justin does, but let me tell you, I've heard Justin's song "Like I Love You," and as much as I love Nick's voice and appreciate his talent, musically it blows "Help Me" right out of the water, no matter what your listening preferences are. Nick says his sound is going to be a little more rock oriented, but bottom line is it's going to be a pop album, it's going to be marketed as a pop album, and Justin's is not. *Mark my words, Justin Timberlake WILL be more successful as a solo artist than Nick Carter because he will be opening himself up to a completely different audience by changing his sound, and Nick isn't.*

I could go on forever about this article, but this is where I am at right now with it... if I have more to say, I'm sure I'll come back.

Submitted by charmaine from saskatoon saskatchewan Canada
Date: Wed Aug 21 03:03:26 2002

well that really gave me a better understanding about all the crap that has gone on behind the scenes. i now understand why ticket prices were so high why they released chapter 1 and why they left the firm. personnally i think that they are going to be much happier with this album because they (i think and hope) are stretching themselves more and have taken a lot of time with it and hopefully they will have new management that will let the guys have more say because the guys are smart and they think more like a fan which makes them realize what the fans want and what is going to make them successful, not all about buisness. that whole $100 million thing was dumb i mean elton john is coming here in a couple of days and his tickets are about $30 cheaper. teenage girls cant afford $150 - $108 tickets!!! chapter one i dont think was a good idea and if they wanted the boys to keep up with n'sync they should have released different singles. lou pearlman is the biggest jerk ever! telling someone to post pone life saving surgery is completly iggnorant. as for leighanne influencing brians decisions well i dont know if i really trust her i just hope she is a different person from what she comes off to be. i think they should get a small managment tean that will focus on them and really communicate the boys ideas, they need to put out a strong album with lots of songs written by themselves, release a good upbeat single, do lots of tv appearances, and put out a cheap tour or a free tour. they have money and this will fill the stadiums show ppl what they got and make a good come back. they said they wanted an older fan base and they got it but if they were planning on beating n'sync then they shouldn't have gone for that change cause young girls will buy every cd and get obessessed but older ppl will just sit back and enjoy a song or two every once in a while. nick is not going to leave the band cause of managment and they are not getting a new member. that is what i don't really like about the new managment because it seems like they are against nick and if they don't work together then things will go bad. yeah the boys are getting on with their lives but who cares they are human and aloud to have lives and if they have a managment team that will give them more say thenthey will be able to manage their "lives" better. brian never takes anything for granted yes a lot of that may come from his health but i can see better why he doesn't anymore because with this buisseness side you never know. they are definatly not as rich as i thought. anyway i think that if the boys want to be more happy then they need to come together more cause right now it seems like they are spreading apart and that will cause confliction between the boys and make them not happy they also need a managment team who will respect what they wanna do

Submitted by BARBARA from SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 02:58:18 2002

i believe this is so sad and shocking and unreal to me i love all the guys with all my heart and i've been a huge fan for a very long time and i'll hate to see them split like that i just wanna say if your a tru fan then pray for the guys i just wish that nick will realize how long he's been in this group and realize that the rest of the guys is like family, his brothers and they all been through thick and thin and hard times and he should stick with the guys because nick was the main one in interviews saying that him and the group is going to be together for ever just pray fans i mean this is a tough time for the guys and it's sad that they smile behind all this but it's hurting badly inside.i luv bsb peace.

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Submitted by Danielle from DE USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 02:53:28 2002

I can absolutely see what all of you guys are saying. Most of the things that I read were obvious, especially how a lot of bad decisions had been made, especially recently. Even I did not think that a greatest hits album was a good idea, and I surely didn't bother buying it. To me it seemed way too early to do that, especially with the downfall that BSB had last year. It seemed as if that was the last we would be hearing of them, even though somewhere we knew that that was not true. Skipping along, Nick is essential to the group. I don't think that the group will work without any member or if any member was replaced. That was a ridiculous thing to say, whoever that guy was (can't quite remember). And maybe it did seem that Nsync was working really hard, either that or they were just being shoved into our faces at every possible moment. I honestly do love BSB, but there has been a large gap between things such as appearances or albums. Do they think it is necessary to disappear for a year at a time? I know they have lives and business to take care of, especially with the whole thing with A.J., and that's what makes me argue between both sides. I want them to have their own lives, but then again I want them to be out there for their fans. I'm just hoping that the album they are working on now will help them, because they surely need it right now.

Submitted by Victor from The Big Apple USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 02:50:04 2002

The Backstreet Boys will ALWAYS be the more superior group. They started it all. They have TIMELESS songs that you just cant forget. Songs like 'I Want It That Way' are timeless. Me being the 20 year old male rock fan truly respect BSB as artists and people. They have talent. TRUST me they will be back.

Oh and WHO CARES IF THEY ARENT POPULAR! I dont listen to music based on fame and popularity. I listen to music. Its my life. I Love music. BSB have talent and thats that.


MTV SUCKS

Submitted by Paloma from Madrid Spain
Date: Wed Aug 21 02:27:53 2002

Hey guys! I'm really happy that all of you care about this. This shows how much we love them. It doesn't matter what happens, we'll always be there. KEEP IT THAT WAY FANS!

Submitted by Maggie from NY NY USA
Date: Wed Aug 21 02:09:42 2002

First of all I'd like to say this hasn't come as a surprise to me. I've been in some way connected to this 'commercial' world and I would understand some of the 'mistakes' these labels and firms have done. The music industry is by far the most intense, and not to mention, the dirtiest of all industries. You see nothing but artists and businesses thriving on others' failures.
To people who have a clue on how this business works, this is just everyday news. And as far as the Backstreet Boys go, I believe they have a hand in this. They haven't done anything wrong. And I could truely say I'm one of their biggest fans. But their 'mistake' was, as Kevin said, that they didn't research more. It's a tricky business, and I personally believe that the Backstreet Boys' past failures had very little to no effect on their music. But unfortunately it has affected their popularity greatly. But there was another mistake that Kevin ceased to add was their 'disagreements' with each other. What makes a strong nation is it's oneness. This they have lost with the days and with their struggles to stay at the top.
Nick's solo move will show it's great effects on the band this fall and this winter will experience a down fall from this little fact. I wouldn't want to judge a book by it's cover. I don't know what terms these boys are on now. And I don't know how and why Nick Carter made this decision. But I could say, with a clear conscience, that Carter has lost the love and respect of his 'brothers' by making this decision.
Numerous times have we heard AJ talking about a solo career for himself, and numerous times have we detected AJ's belief in the end of the BSB. But we have turned our back on these facts and went on to believing that these men are true brothers. They may have started out as one, but outside forces have managed to change this heart warming fact. And for what?
Yes, The Firm, Jive, Pearlman, and all the others used the band to achieve their goals. But isn't that what this business is all about?
I just hope in the future we'll see a healthier Backstreet Boys. Because it would pain me to witness yet another tragic downfall of a great talent!

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