The Lost Boys: How a Pop Sensation Came Undone

First Page - Previous - Next - Last - Add Entry - Other Topics - Message Boards - Exit Page 57 of 75 Submitted by jess from USA Date: Wed Aug 21 10:13:09 2002 i don't hate the bsb...i just am not a fan. i am a fan of NICK. i LOVE nick. but not the bsb. i don't like n'sync either. i'm just an innocent bystander, giving my opinion. can't you respect that? :) jess http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nick_the_man Submitted by Sharon from Netherlands Date: Wed Aug 21 10:09:09 2002 if she wants to write a letter she can do that, u have nothing to say about that. and even the best papers post lies. they lost their young audience? nuh uh. here i quote it from the article: "the Backstreet Boys lost their young audience" so thats a lie. they might have lost some of it but not all. Submitted by Molly from DuBois Pennsylvania USA Date: Wed Aug 21 10:02:19 2002 *Sigh* Good lord! A lot of you people really need to mature and grow up a little bit. There's NO NEED to jump on Jess because she thinks that NSYNC have more charisma in interviews. To be honest, they DO. Do you remember the one-on-ones in the group interview? Kevin did ALL the talking. And he's also the one who showed a LACK of respect by telling NSYNC to find their own identity, which they have done. And what people need to realize is that NSYNC has worked their asses off as much as BSB in order to gain success. Regardless of the fact that they "copied" them, they still worked hard. Any artist in music industry is going to work as hard as they possibly can. And trying to take that away is just ridiculous and blind-sighted. And whatever you do, DO NOT go writing letters to the New York Times yelling at the journalist. It just gives ALL of us a bad name. He'll take one look at your letter, laugh, and then throw it in the paper shredder. Because what he did was JOURNALISM, and it was a very good article. I'm glad it was printed, because it sheds so much light on everything. And if you even TRY to say that he doesn't have the facts right, think about it! This is the New York fucking Times! They don't put stuff in their paper just for the purpose of trying to be superior by trashing the Backstreet Boys! They have better things to do! This was an article that was used to shed light on the music industry, and it did just that. Whether you like what it says or not, you can't just assume that it's all lies, because guess what? If it was lies it wouldn't be in there. Submitted by Sharon from Netherlands Date: Wed Aug 21 09:56:10 2002 No problem. You're so right. It still wonders me why Nsync fans keep coming to a BSB site when they don't even like them. I don't like Nsync but you won't find me on an Nsync site whining about them. I don't like them, period, but I don't care that other people do like them, good for them, that doesn't give me the right to annoy them by saying how stupid they are... This is a site for BSB fans, not for people who wanna start fights or whatever. If you wanna talk about how great you think Nsync is, then go to an Nsync site, not to a BSB site. If you do like Nsync and not the BSB then why spoil your time on a BSB site... Submitted by maral from markham ontario Canada Date: Wed Aug 21 09:33:46 2002 thanx sharon, all the backstreet support we can get rox! KTBSPA Submitted by Maral from Markham Ontario Canada Date: Wed Aug 21 09:32:25 2002 Ok this one Is for Jess, If you don't liek BSB then thats fine, everyone has there own opinion, but don't come onto a BSB site and say things like that, have some respect girl. The music industy has nothing to do with being funny, It only has to do with Music! Not being funny or hot or nice, or kind, It has ntohing to do with that, it has to do with HARD WORK, which N'sync wouldn't know about cuz success was handed out on a plate to them, cuz of BSB. Thats why Its called the MUSIC industry! It only has to do with the music. So don't come onto this site saying that KEVIN is a prike! If you read the article, kevin is the one who Is always saying nive things about N'sync, and about how they deserve there success. He has respect unliek any of you ungrateful savages! Submitted by Sharon from Netherlands Date: Wed Aug 21 09:29:28 2002 I agree with Maral, you go girl!! Submitted by jess from USA Date: Wed Aug 21 09:10:34 2002 mia is totally right. n'sync is a very talented group, and they deserve as much respect as the bsb. the boys don't get the love and respect b/c they take themselves too fucking seriously. if you look at an n'sync interview, and then you look at a bsb interview, the same questions asked, i guarentee you that the n'sync will be the guys laughing and having a good time, and then bsb will just be sitting there looking at the floor, while that arrogant prick kevin does all the talking. there is a reason for sucess in this business...it is called CHARISMA. n'sync has it, bsb doesn't. the results are clear. :) jess http://groups/yahoo.com/group/nick_the_man Submitted by Maral from Markham Ontario Canada Date: Wed Aug 21 09:04:03 2002 Ok, first to start off, i would just like to say to this chick Mia, who has poste a letter to shut the hell up! how dare u come to a BSB site and put them down! are u stupid? Hunny i have one thing to say to u, get UR info right! The only reason ur stupid N'sync is even in this industy is becouse of BSB, you should be kissing the ground they walk on! Oh Ya, and by the way, BSB WRITES, SINGS (UNLIKE N'SYNC) AND EVEN PRODUCES MOST OF THERE ALBUMS AND SONGS.HOW DARE YOU COME ONTO THIS SITE AND SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT EVEN TRUE. BSB CAME OUT FIRST AND OPENED UP THE INDUSTY, THATS THE ONLY REASON N'SYNC IS OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO DON'T SAY THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE. And as for the article I THOUGHT IT WAS STUPID, IM WRITTING A letter right now to the new york times, cuz they don't even have half the info right in it. Im upset and even madder about the stupidness of some ppl. I think journalist's should have the write info before they say things that are not true. Maral*** Canada Submitted by jess from cleveland ohio USA Date: Wed Aug 21 09:02:54 2002 oh, come on you guys. you know that the backstreet boys have been fading away since "more than that". a breakup is imminent at this point. all we can do now is hope that nick is sucessful in his solo venture. :) jess htp://groups.yahoo.com/group/nick_the_man Submitted by Sharon from Netherlands Date: Wed Aug 21 08:43:02 2002 Wow... That was long... That was... I don't know, meaningfull. The BSB lost their younger audience? I'm 19, I have a lot of friends who are BSB fans who are 19 or younger... are we old? Don't think so. Why do they always keep comparing with Nsync, that really bothers me. Nsync has nothing to do with the BSB, the BSB were here before them, and they WILL outlive them for sure. So Nick makes a solo cd... so? Does that mean he has to leave the group? No. I've been a fan since I was 12 years old, and I still am a big fan. I've been following whatever they did for over 7 years now, and I remember Nick saying he might want to make a solo cd, I also remember Brian saying that. Okay maybe noboday believed it back then, but here's the proove, Nick's album Now Or Never. So? He's probably gonna do a tour yeah, so? SOOOO??? That doesn't mean he's gonna leave the BSB!! AHHH I can't stand it when people talk like that, geez whoever this article wrote, he probably doesn't even know them!! So what makes him think he has the right to write stuff like this anyway? If he doesn't like them.. good for him, everyone his own opinion.. But don't write it down like this as if you're right and nothing else is possible UGH!! Nick makes a solo cd, goes on a tour, after a few months, the hype about his cd is over and he can go back to the BSB. I'm not complaining about his cd, I've always liked Nick most, I love his voice, so I can't wait to get his cd, but that doesn't mean I don't want him to stay in the group. The BSB aren't the BSB anymore when one of the members leaves. Doesn't matter which member, BSB are Nick, Brian, Kevin, Howie and AJ, nothing more, nothing less. They had their problems yeah, heart surgery, rehab... DUH They're normal human beings like everyone! They just happen to be great performers! Some of them married.. DUH most people want to get married! That's what life's about! LOVE! Why would anyone blame them for that? They can take time off! They're not machines, so no one can expect them to work 24/7 365 days a year. That's impossible. They need their time off! They need their rest, they're only human beings! Okay, I live in the Netherlands, I haven't seen them in concert in over 3 years, sometimes I get really pissed about it, but I also know it's not their fault. They can't be at more than one location at the same time, and they need to spend time with their families, time with their wifes/girlfriends, time doing whatever they like without people trying to boss them around. ... So, let Nick make his solo cd, let him go on a tour, they will be back together, remember how they always said they're gonna stay here forever? Yeah they lost some fans, but they probably weren't real fans. The real fans will be waiting for them. The real fans will support Nick like they supported Brian when he had his surgery, like they supported AJ when he did his tour and when he went into rehab. The real fans will support all of them when they are having whatever kinda problems. The real fans will wait. Keep The Backstreet Pride Alive Submitted by Mia from USA Date: Wed Aug 21 08:29:20 2002 LISTEN! Some of you need to get facts straight before you post! Nobody said they shouldn't get married. We said they shouldn't have taken two years for a honeymoon. Whether your in the music business or not-that can kill a career. Nick made an album in this period (which was NOT rushed), that every BSB was aware of. Only when they decided they had a big enough break did they suddenly care that Nick had a solo record. They expected him to shelve it? Well you can't do that. A cd can cost more than a million doller just to make-not including promotion. So who's really the selfish and lazy people. AS for NSYNC-they not only write almost all of thier songs-they produce them also (BSB does not). Nsync also writes music-not just lyrics-like BSB. For all the hating a lot of us have done (myself included) Nsync has (like their music or not) surpassed BSB in not just fans but the way they manage to keep control of their careers, frienships and music. BSB have had even more of an oppurtunity with their talent but they indeed act like boys and get that much respect. They need to either learn to get along or quit. Submitted by Ryan from Australia Date: Wed Aug 21 07:19:17 2002 The article, and more importantly this forum has made me realise 1 thing - THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT OF AUSTRALIAN FANS - Go the Aussies!!! Submitted by Ryan from Australia Date: Wed Aug 21 07:16:47 2002 As long as we're here, who cares?.... Submitted by Janice from Melb VIC Australia Date: Wed Aug 21 07:09:36 2002 Reading the article was very very disturbing for me. it makes me really hurt deep inside and i'm sure many of the fans would've too. I felt that the article was quite negative towards the BSB and that shouldn't be right. There whole career written out like that has been such a long journey, it makes me luv them soooooo soooooo much more. and if it wasn't for the BSB, nsync wouldn't even exist!!! ... they can't sing like shit! n for justin...he can go to hell!! but the BSB are "the one" and will last forever, especially in my heart. Submitted by Chrissie from Germany Date: Wed Aug 21 04:59:38 2002 I'm a BsB fan since 95 and I will never forget what they did for me. Over here in Germany nobody really cares bout the boys anymore and I dont care bout that. They don't need to be the best band of the world for everyone.For me they will always be the best band.Deep inside my heart I thank them for everything they have done. Maybe they'll have a come back maybe they'll make it big again but the only thing that matters to me is the music. Songs like How did I fall in love with you just make me feel better. I'll stay backstreet for life. Submitted by Lil from SF CA USA Date: Wed Aug 21 03:33:16 2002 All I have to say is this is a great publicity stunt that someone made because it defintly has everyone talking. Nick going solo...isn't detrimental at all...because who's gonna take him seriously? I'm not. I mean AJ can go on a solo tour and yet Nick makes a rushed pop/rock album and the now the BSB are officially doomed? Please, Nick as much as I love him...he's not the brightest thing in the world and I'm sure this album will do nothing but to give some publicity for a Justin vs nick feud. As a fan, I know they'll be back and better than ever. To prove my point, a station where I live showed an N'sync concert a few nights ago and then the BSB one was tonight. I'm sorry but yah N'sync can dance...but can they dance and sing? NOOOOO They completely lip-synched Bye, bye, bye. ANd the BSB didn't lip synch anything INCLUDING LARGER THAN LIFE which we all know is a hard dance routine. Ahh that's enough of this. At least the BSB name is out there and good luck to Nick and his subpar solo effort. Submitted by Lindsey from Boston MA USA Date: Wed Aug 21 03:06:06 2002 The responses to this article are really overwhelming... I really don't have it in me to read each and every one of them right now, but I think I just might have to make it a point to do so, because I am really interested in what the take of my peers, the fans, is on all of this. The Backstreet Boys have been losing momentum for a while now, and being a devout fan, going to all my local shows, travelling as much as I can to see them on tour and during other public appearances, you meet people (some close to the band, some not), and you pick up on things. The first thing I want to say is that IN MY OPINION, AJ McLean's alcohal problem has very little to do with the detriment of the band. AJ helping himself set a positive example for a lot of young people struggling with addiction, and I think he deserves a lot more credit from the press than he gets when it comes to that particular situation. So he is in a pop band. Yes a lot of their fans are adolescent females. But I'll tell you this, when I became a fan of the BSB in 1997, it was mainly because of their talent, but when I thought of Nick Carter, I wasn't thinking that he was this young innocent that I had this massive crush on and fantasized about. I was thinking that he was hot and I wanted to get in his pants. And I know that I was not the only 15 or 16 year old who was thinking this, because even the most reserved of my friends at the time was standing on her chair screaming for Howie D. to "take it off!" So it came to no shock to me, at 19 years old, that AJ had a drinking problem. Hell, any one of us might have under that kind of stress in that situation. And to go even further into it, Brian and Kevin's marriages may have been devistating to some fans, but these MILLIONS of girls have to know somewhere deep down that their chances of being with these guys are slim to none, and I know, as a true fan, I was genuinely happy that in their hectic lives, they found themselves a little slice of peace and happiness with someone. To get back to my original point, their personal lives have LITTLE to do with their situation as a band right now, or their popularity. It is about how the band was marketed to the general public. Now this I fault back onto the Boys themselves. This article states that they unknowingly got themselves into some bad business deals, but it never said they didn't have a hand or a say in how they were collectively represented in the public eye. *NSYNC is obviously having tremendous success right now as a group, and surpassed BSB a few years ago, not because they're better musicians, but because they were very business minded and marketed themselves as a group wisely. Backstreet Boys wanted so badly to distinguish themselves as a vocal group, not a boy band that they didn't experiment as much as they should've with their sound and alienated a lot of fans. Now I've met Justin Timberlake, and he is one huge prick, but when you see him on TV, or out publicly with the band, they are laughing, joking, and really having a good time with all of this. They are able to poke fun at themselves, and that is what makes them endearing to all of these people. Now when Chris Rock was poking fun at AJ at last years VMA's, Brian stormed on the stage and took the champagne bottle from him during an awards show broadcast... what the hell is that?? Sure you're going to be a little defensive over your friend, but it's AJ's criticism to deal with, and he showed a room full of music industry heavyweights (it was edited from the broadcast) that he was uptight as all hell. Why couldn't he have just let that blow over, and possibly comment on it after the broadcast??? The public persona of BSB has become very serious, brooding, and generally dark, and that just doesn't fit with the bubblegum pop their pushing in their albums. That, I feel, is their most serious fault in this whole thing... they were too busy resenting *NSYNC and worrying about what that group's next move would be instead of worrying about their own careers. I have to talk about the comments made about Nick going solo, because I feel the article makes a great point about this being a detriment to the band, but I feel they didn't explain why thoroughly. Right now Nick Carter is in the process of putting out his first solo album. And so is Justin Timberlake. But do you hear anyone (besides Lou Pearlman in this article) agonizing over what a bad move Justin is making and how much this is going to hurt *NSYNC? Nope. But Nick really is hurting the guys by pushing his solo stuff right now... I feel his main reason for doing it is selfish; he's just a confused 22 year old, and maybe he feels this is his time to just do his thing and the other group members have to accept it. But with Justin working on solo plans (which he has been publicly contemplating for years, Nick has just come a little out of the blue with it), Joey starring in "Rent," and Lance getting orbited into outer space and hopefully getting lost out there, this is prime time for the Boys to move back in with something fresh, to really reclaim their title as the pioneers of this game, and Nick is completely disregarding that right now. And I *do* feel that part of it is to get his solo stuff out there before Justin does, but let me tell you, I've heard Justin's song "Like I Love You," and as much as I love Nick's voice and appreciate his talent, musically it blows "Help Me" right out of the water, no matter what your listening preferences are. Nick says his sound is going to be a little more rock oriented, but bottom line is it's going to be a pop album, it's going to be marketed as a pop album, and Justin's is not. *Mark my words, Justin Timberlake WILL be more successful as a solo artist than Nick Carter because he will be opening himself up to a completely different audience by changing his sound, and Nick isn't.* I could go on forever about this article, but this is where I am at right now with it... if I have more to say, I'm sure I'll come back. Submitted by charmaine from saskatoon saskatchewan Canada Date: Wed Aug 21 03:03:26 2002 well that really gave me a better understanding about all the crap that has gone on behind the scenes. i now understand why ticket prices were so high why they released chapter 1 and why they left the firm. personnally i think that they are going to be much happier with this album because they (i think and hope) are stretching themselves more and have taken a lot of time with it and hopefully they will have new management that will let the guys have more say because the guys are smart and they think more like a fan which makes them realize what the fans want and what is going to make them successful, not all about buisness. that whole $100 million thing was dumb i mean elton john is coming here in a couple of days and his tickets are about $30 cheaper. teenage girls cant afford $150 - $108 tickets!!! chapter one i dont think was a good idea and if they wanted the boys to keep up with n'sync they should have released different singles. lou pearlman is the biggest jerk ever! telling someone to post pone life saving surgery is completly iggnorant. as for leighanne influencing brians decisions well i dont know if i really trust her i just hope she is a different person from what she comes off to be. i think they should get a small managment tean that will focus on them and really communicate the boys ideas, they need to put out a strong album with lots of songs written by themselves, release a good upbeat single, do lots of tv appearances, and put out a cheap tour or a free tour. they have money and this will fill the stadiums show ppl what they got and make a good come back. they said they wanted an older fan base and they got it but if they were planning on beating n'sync then they shouldn't have gone for that change cause young girls will buy every cd and get obessessed but older ppl will just sit back and enjoy a song or two every once in a while. nick is not going to leave the band cause of managment and they are not getting a new member. that is what i don't really like about the new managment because it seems like they are against nick and if they don't work together then things will go bad. yeah the boys are getting on with their lives but who cares they are human and aloud to have lives and if they have a managment team that will give them more say thenthey will be able to manage their "lives" better. brian never takes anything for granted yes a lot of that may come from his health but i can see better why he doesn't anymore because with this buisseness side you never know. they are definatly not as rich as i thought. anyway i think that if the boys want to be more happy then they need to come together more cause right now it seems like they are spreading apart and that will cause confliction between the boys and make them not happy they also need a managment team who will respect what they wanna do Submitted by BARBARA from SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA USA Date: Wed Aug 21 02:58:18 2002 i believe this is so sad and shocking and unreal to me i love all the guys with all my heart and i've been a huge fan for a very long time and i'll hate to see them split like that i just wanna say if your a tru fan then pray for the guys i just wish that nick will realize how long he's been in this group and realize that the rest of the guys is like family, his brothers and they all been through thick and thin and hard times and he should stick with the guys because nick was the main one in interviews saying that him and the group is going to be together for ever just pray fans i mean this is a tough time for the guys and it's sad that they smile behind all this but it's hurting badly inside.i luv bsb peace. 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