Submitted by clairessa brown from Indianapolis Indiana USA
Date: Mon Aug 5 14:25:30 2002
Jo jo i agree that we should but what if she was making it up or the person that told her was making it up was.stil i'll send to the press since somebody else can't tell the truth.(JIVE).i'm gonna have to write it but i won't want o waste all of that time while i could be checkin' out this site more so if anybody lives in the butler tarkinton area and has a printer can they please print it out and send it to the Indianapolis Star. Their down town.Go to indystar.com to find the address.I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE FRONT PAGE JIVE ARE LIARS.Not like that but kinda.I think they pay you but i don't know that.
Anyway if any body knows this song can they tell me the name and send me the lyrics.it's kinda old it's by savage garden: baby set me free from this misery.I can take it no more.I dying to hear the name and the lyrics.
Submitted by JoJo from VA USA
Date: Mon Aug 5 12:36:20 2002
VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS SOMETHING MONICA POSTED. I BELIEVE IT'S TRUE. IT MAKES SENSE. EVERYONE PLEASE COPY/PRINT THIS AND SEND IT TO THE NEWSPAPER OF THE CITY NEAREST YOU.
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OMG! OMG OMG OMG I'm freaking out! YOU ALL HAVE TO READ THIS! I freaked out SO much!Here's a disturbing email that I received from my egroup:
**The Boys sold 3.6 copies of Black and Blue here in the U.S. it's first week.**
But don't hold your breath waiting for Soundscan or Jive to announce it because it isn't going to happen.
Here is how I came about this information. I was waiting in line for concert tix this morning when I struck up a conversation with another woman who was getting tix for another venue. But she also thinks the Boys are pretty good, even though she admitted she wasn't a "die-hard fan". She actually likes 'NSync better, not because of the vocals (she said the BSB are far superior), but because she just likes the up-tempos more and likes the dancing emphasis in the 'NSync shows. This lady has a very wide taste in music, believe me! From Nine Inch Nails to Limp to 98 Degrees. We started talking about Black and Blue and she said she really liked it. She had also heard of the MFC, and she said she would look us up on the Internet because she liked the idea about all the charity work that we do. :) Anyways, we got to talking about first week sales, and she told me that she grew up in the Orlando area, and she has a good friend who is directly affiliated with Jive. Her friend's family owns Kingworld productions, and she mentioned several names that I know for a fact are associated with the Boys and Jive. (No, she has never met them, nor does she claim to know them personally).
**Anybody remember that little post from the BOOST club that ended up on the MFC message board and other boards that stated the Boys had sold 3.6 million so far? And then it suddenly "disappeared" justlikethat?**
Well, this was the EXACT number this lady quoted to me!
I asked her how she came up with this information, and she said it all started back with the sale of NSA when she went to buy a copy for her daughter the first week it came out, and she noticed a #2 by the "quantity" line. But yet she only paid for one. She said she asked the store manager about it, and he said that was how Jive had instructed all of them to be keyed in. (??)
She wasn't happy with that answer, so she called her friend in Florida because she knew she was associated with Jive, but she claimed ignorance about the whole thing. But then after Black and Blue came out, her friend gave her the whole scoop and told her that NSA did NOT sell 2.4 million that first week. It only sold 1.2 million, just barely beating out the Boys' record. The inflated figures came from carefully-placed marks on the bar codes that automatically registerd a single purchase of NSA as being 2 copies, although most consumers never saw the discrepancy or were aware ofthe marks.
I was still a little skeptical here, so I asked her why Jive would intentionally do this, and she quoted the "boy band" feud thing... trying to keep the fires of competition going between the fans.
So why would Jive deliberately LOWER the numbers for Black and Blue if it really sold 3.6 million copies? She said her friend told her that this will actually BOOST sales for both albums, and that they (Jive) are centering a lot of attention on NSync right now and trying to keep them "on top" because they figure they can get one more album out of them before they lose their very young teen and pre-teen fanbase. And then it will be all over. NO multi-album deals have been offered to NSync, and we all know that the Boys have a 5-album deal, which will probably take them at least 6-8 years or so to fill, depending on whether or not double-album or single-album releases are planned for the future.
**In other words, Jive knows that the Boys are here to stay, and they're milking the NSync cash cow for everything they can right now!**
If the Boys leave Jive, which they have hinted at recently in the press, Jive will plummet rapidly. They will have Britney and NSync, both of which have a very "iffy" chance at longevity.
So do the Boys know about this? That I can't tell you, but her friend told her that she thought they did, and that they're okay with it because they're trying to get away from the "boy band" competition between them and NSync. Beating their record would have just fueled the fire even more. They're distancing themselves from this whole mess and trying to re-invent themselves both musically and personally.
Do I believe this person? Well, I can't imagine why she would make something like this up. And she admitted to liking NSync more. And if you look at some of the "rumors" that were flying around when NSA first came out about messed-up receipts and such, it makes sense. And did anyone notice how tight-lipped sources were with giving the public any info about Black and Blue's sales at first? The media was broadcasting NSA's sales tallies almost on a daily basis earlier this year! And nowhere have I seen WalMart's actual first-week sales posted.
Very interesting to think about. But I have to say this... if this is true, I have just gained a huge amount of respect for the Boys. To know what is going on and NOT say anything says volumes to me. And on the opposite hand, for Nsync to be equally knowledgeable about all of this literally makes me ill.
Again, I have NO WAY of proving this, but I have a feeling that time will eventually weed this little scandal out. And guess who will come out smelling like a rose, STILL playing to packed-out audiences, and STILL selling a ton of records?? :) :) :)
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So what do you think about that?!
Pretty, disturbing, huh. Want my opinion? I think it could possibly be true. It's so infuriating because we as BSB fans have to take crap from everyone because of the album sales, etc... so I wish that the truth would be told so everyone would shut up! GTG!
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WE NEED TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS! I'M SENDING THIS TO THE WASHINGTON POST. ADMIT IT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE. THANKS MONICA.
Submitted by Rosanne from USA
Date: Sun Aug 4 19:22:55 2002
Here are my suggestions for the Backstreet Boys new cd title:
"Forever"
"Another Day"
Keep the Backstreet Pride Alive!
Submitted by Jackie from USA
Date: Sun Aug 4 18:50:06 2002
Hi again,
Duz anyone no when r Boys r goin on Tour or when the new cd iz comn out? Sorry, but ive heard a lot of different rumors. Here r my previous suggestions for the cd title:
*After itz all said and done
*Many more miles 2 go
*Time and Time Again
*Rythum, Blues, and Pop
but how about:
*Rumors
ki, that ones not great, but i'll keep thinking. If anyone cood answer my questions from above or say wat they think of my titles, just add an entry to post here and i'd greatly appreciate it. Also, duz anyone no if the Backstreet Boys read this? I hope so. I LUV BSB! KTBSPA! Till next time!
Submitted by Kimber Ann from Alexandria VA USA
Date: Sun Aug 4 10:44:28 2002
First, I wanted to say thanks to JoJo for posting Nick's lyrics! I was looking for them all over the site, but didn't expect to find them in here! I just came to "name" the new album, which brings me to #2:"Milestones" or "Changes" would be good, since they've gone through so many. Or maybe "Growing Older, Growing Wiser."
=o)
Kimber Ann
OOOHHBABY!!
Submitted by Sue from Canada
Date: Sat Aug 3 18:54:07 2002
Name: "It's time"
Submitted by Jennnifer R from Boston MA. USA
Date: Sat Aug 3 13:35:48 2002
Hay guys,
I don't know if anyone thought of this yet but I'd name it "B,K,A,H,N (Brian,Kevin,Aj,Howie,Nick)
I don't know if they named it "complete" but if they did I hope it's not the end of their group.
god bles to all,
Jennifer R.
Submitted by Alana and Phaedra from ohio USA
Date: Sat Aug 3 13:14:56 2002
The new album shall be called get ur freak on.It is a pretty cool name huh? Uh Get ur freak on uh get freak on. Miss Mary Mat mat mat. They should name it All dressed in Black Black Black. gtg Bye!
Submitted by Ann from Philippines
Date: Sat Aug 3 08:47:11 2002
Gee, I thought this page is for album name suggestions...
Anyway, "Ride" can be a good album title.
"Years" is a mysterious title. It can say a lot about the boys (eg, number of years in the business, number of years they have been loving the fans).
"Next" is also nice. It's a way of saying "Hey, this is OUR album!!!"
Gee, hope you find it creative... and the BSB too, if they're reading this...
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
Submitted by Carly from USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 22:25:49 2002
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I really don't care what it's called, I already know it's gonna sound great, I just want to hear it. They always come out with a better album every time but if I was to name it, it would be called From Boys To Men.
Submitted by Vin's Girl from USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 20:14:56 2002
Hi Everyone,
It's good to know that we all are still being very nice to each other here with the nice loving words (SARCASM)
Well, moving on does any one in here like NORAH JONES? She is a new jazz singer and she has a mixture of jazz, blues, country and folk pop. She is definatly not for everyone but she has beautifull and unique songs and she definatly is unique herself. So if you like her and wanna chat about her please e-mail me. i know that this is not a board to chat about other singers but at least i am celebrating music all around rather than be like these people who have nothing to do but trash others for their hard work, even if they don't like them or they're music. It's good all around and enjoy it. and Norah is definatly some who is talented and deserves being known.
Any way i can't wait of course till BSB's album comes out and nicks of course. Till then to these negative people coming in here keep bitching!
PS. i have a name for BSB's album just to keep on the topic how about " Let's go for a litte ride"
C-Yall
Vin's Girl
Submitted by otown,a1 bsb,and kinda 98 degrees fan from indpls. indiana USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 18:13:39 2002
Ella you're a freak.Nsync sucks.U can't even spell suck right go back to 1st grade and melt with nsync in brazil.Second some idiot you don't know you know i'm talkin' to ya.The person that told you to get off was right.why do some of you idiotic nsync freaks come and descurb the bsb peace on this site.I'm gonna thank the person who told nsync "lovers" to get off bacause notice the web site's name.Do i have to spell it out. B-A-C-K-S-T-R-E-E-T-DOT-N-E-T.Take all the affence given.This site is for bsb fans only.now what.
backstreet boys rule
nsync melts into BURT PLASTICi think the new album is going to be named .....NSYNC SUCKS.yep pretty.don't yall.i mean the oldest one is 35.cough kris kirpactric cough.we love our man eminem.but bsb more.
by:Clairessa Brown,
nsync fans don't fit in anywhere.Remember that.
bsb fans head over to nsync sites and but bad things on their stupid chat lines so they leave us alone and know who rules,BACKSTREET.
Submitted by Amy Wickersham from Redding Ca USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 17:43:13 2002
Ok, a few more for my humor page (please don't use these)Ohmigod! We're Back Again!
Backstreets Back..Damnit
Sorry I REALLY love the guys but I also have a sense of humor about what I love.
Submitted by Amy Wickersham from Redding Ca USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 17:39:20 2002
I can't wait for both Nick's album and all the boy's album.My Ideas:
1. Never Ends
2. B-Hank (ha I love that)
3. Bruised, A Follow Up to Black & Blue
4. As Long As You Believe
Sorry, I'm not creative, but the bruised thing is going on my humor page lol. If ya like BSB humor feel free to e-mail me.
Submitted by Angi from franklin WI USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 14:30:05 2002
Ok, "Some Guy You Don't Know" if you dont like the BackSTREET Boys, then you obviously have a problem if you visit their websites. Get a fuckin life please. .:KTBSPA:.
Angi
Submitted by Some Guy You Don't Know from USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 13:11:02 2002
Oopsies! That was supposed to be idiots who DO like the backseat boys and don't know anything. Sorry!
Submitted by Some Guy You Don't Know from USA
Date: Fri Aug 2 13:06:21 2002
Hey y'all! You know what the new album should be called?Backseat Boys: We'll give you what you don't want
Or how 'bout this one?
Ugly Rasper
(I hope you understand that one, but just for those idiots who don't like the backseat boys and don't know anything: These idiots on the background are ugly, and they can't sing worth a damn!
Sorry to burst your bubbles, ladies!
Submitted by Angi from franklin WI USA
Date: Thu Aug 1 18:33:38 2002
Hey, if anyone knows anything about nick touring, could you email me? I love him and would love to catch him in concert if its possible...thank you.:love always:.
angi
Submitted by Angi from Franklin WI USA
Date: Thu Aug 1 18:24:36 2002
Thanks Jasmine, you are soooo right! Nicks Album will rock, and all his fans know it...thats all that matters! Thanx for standing up for Nick, his album, his fans and all WE believe in!! KTBSPA!!! BUY NICKS ALBUM!!!
.:lotsa love:.
Submitted by Jasmine from Virginia USA
Date: Thu Aug 1 17:33:04 2002
I posted this on MTV's "You Tell Us" in response to their story on Nick's new album.
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It's obvious that Justin Timberlake's album will outsell Nick Carter's. Justin gets promotion from Lance Bass' space gossip and his own relationship with Britney Spears. Nick will get very little promotion. The media has already taken sides, but look at what happened last year: Alicia Keys had loads of promo and she got six Grammy nods, but India.Arie got seven. Why? Because although she didn't get a quarter of the promotion Keys got, her album was good. That's what drives Nick and all of his fans. Some care about sales, others just want to be proud of their product. Nick is the latter.
Jasmine, 18
Woodbridge, VA
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MTV are pro Justin. And I have proof. In the above entry to "You Tell Us" I said 'Justin gets promo from his "fake, media-driven relationship with Britney" ' and they changed it to 'Justin gets promo from his "own relationship with Britney." ' It's obvious who pays MTV.
Submitted by JoJo from VA USA
Date: Thu Aug 1 15:39:53 2002
I wish I could define
All the thoughts that cross my mind
They seem to big for me to choose
I don't know which ones to lose
And I've fallen down so far
I think I'll never see your light
Bouncing off of me
Shining down here from your eyes Chorus
Help me
Figure out the difference
Between right and wrong, weak and strong
Day and night where I belong
Help me
Make the right decision
Know which way to turn lessons to learn
And just what my purpose is here
It's like I got the signals crossed
With messages I can't decode
Half asleep never wide awake
I'm on complete overload
I got so much information here
And nothin I can really grasp
I should know the truth
But I'm too afraid so I have to ask
Chorus
Wanna know you
More than anything
I need you
In my every dream
You're there for me
You love me
For who I am
No angel
Just an ordinary man
Help me figure out
Why I'm stuck in the middle
Tryin to understand
Why I can't quite, it's such a riddle
Got my eyes crossed
Thinkin so hard
And I know I'm missin the mark
Can you help me sort out
All this information
I'm just rackin my brain
Payin attention
But I'm still lost
And at all costs
I
I gotta know (I GOTTA KNOW!! KNOW!!)
Chorus
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Everybody get this record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Dayna from Erwin NC USA
Date: Thu Aug 1 11:02:38 2002
I love BSB more than anything. They will always be # 1 to me. i think the new album should be called "Into the Future". BSB forever.
Submitted by bijan from USA
Date: Thu Aug 1 03:52:31 2002
hey have u all heard that the new album comez out in spring? I just heard that & I was shoked cuz I thought it was coming out early fall.I gusse they did that for nick so he could do his thing in this time & have his tour.
Submitted by bsbfan102602se from USA
Date: Wed Jul 31 20:29:55 2002
Ah!!!!Im so happy Nick is coming to Seattle! I dont know if I'm going, but its Aug 19. 3 questions...
1. Will he flying in?
2. By automobile
and 3. Is he going to be staying in a hotel.
Submitted by Stacie from USA
Date: Wed Jul 31 14:31:21 2002
Hey guy (well, mostly girls lol)! I know this is a bsb site and i a huge fan, but i need help with otown stuff. Sorry to bother you guys, but if anyone knows how i can download the song "american games" by otown please email me like right away because i love it and it's not working for me! Id totally appreciate your help! BSB FOREVER!!!!! ~Stacie~ DananBriangirl@hotmail.com